[JagFanatic24]

Just to get a break from all the Tebow talk. I put together some interesting numbers during my downtime here at work.

I know most will say coulda shoulda woulda. Taylor could have went down as the 2nd greatest runner of all time.

137 starts out of 153 games

avg 4.6 for his career

rushed for 11695 while missing 55 games.

had 2534 rushing attempts which averaged out to be 16
carries per game

Based on that he missed out on 880 carries..

Based on his avg rush per carry that is 4048 yards

Add that to 11695 and that = 15743 over 13 seasons.

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Emmitt Smith had 4409 carries for 18355 yards with a 4.2 avg

Smith had 219 starts and played in 226 games. (missed 18 games)
73 more games than Taylor. Emmitt also carried the ball 1875 more times than Fred Taylor did.
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These numbers may be a little skewd, but based on some quick calculations:

If Taylor could have played in 226 games he would have amassed 5580 more yards which would have given him 17275 yards rushing good enough to put him safely in 2nd place ahead of Walter Payton who has 16,726 yards rushing.

1080 yards less than the All-Time rush leader in NFL History.

If he could have back just have half of the 55 games he missed that would have given him another 2090 yards which would put him around 13785 yards for his career(based on his 76 yards per game avg). Which would put him 5th all-time just ahead of LaDaninian Tomlinson at 13684.

He needed just a mere 584 yards to be in the top 10 all-time in rushing. Even worse, he needed just 618 yards to surpass Jim Brown.

If Taylor could have just had that season back where he threw the ball down, then he would have easily rushed for 1,000 yards that season good enough for 9th all time just behind Tony Dorsett.

He would be a first ballot Hall of Famer, with no question. I know this is just tossing numbers around, but man...talk about being right there in the mix of the greatest of all time...

This post has been edited by JagFanatic24: Mar 27 2012 07:31 PM

[CatAttack78]

I think you should change your name to FredFanatic.

[GingerJag]

You typed up all this while at work? Is your job hiring?

[JagFanatic24]

It took me 10 minutes, which I did this on my 15 minute break.

[JAGFAN4EVER!]

I love Freddy T!!! He is my all time favorite Jag!

[Schism]

Doesn't this get brought up every offseason? It's an old boring worn out conversation. We all loved Fred but geeze this gets old...

[JagsFerLife]

If he stayed healthy his whole career, he would of been known as one of the best of all time, behind Jim Brown and Barry Sanders IMO. He had abit of both of them in him.

[d3athb4dishonor]

I've heard interviews with a lot of the great backs saying if he would have stayed healthy he probably would have eben one of the greatest of all time.

Sadly.... McFadden is probably going to follow in his footsteps. If I was McFadden I would get in touch with Freddy T and find out what he was doing towards the end of his career that kept him healthy and start doing it now lol.'

Taylor was the man though.

[Juztbecawz]

If Scott Norwood would have just lined up a foot more to the left before the kick.....

Yeah, Fred was good.

[Norman Mushari]

2 factors that you're not factoring in.

1. Had he not been injured, he might have worn down faster. In the twilight of his career, he put up some pretty good numbers. Had he played 16 games seasons, every season, up until than, he probably would have retired, with 10 huge seasons. Probably putting up an ave. of 1500 per. Still 15k in any era gets you in the HOF.

2. Had he not been injured, who knows how amazing he would have been. If you are gonna argue that he was the same after the injury, I'm not gonna listen. He might have retired with 4.7.

Those were some great years.

[Shack Del Rio]

And to think, Coughlin was trying to move up to take Curtis Enis instead.

[JagFanatic24]

Emmitt only missed a handful of games.

Taylor would have smashed records if he could have missed the same amount of games Emmitt missed.

[Raven09s]

Freddy is, and always will be, one of my favorite football players of all time.

I remember an ESPN article a few years back with Barry Sanders when they asked him who he thought was one of the greats still playing at that time. He said without hesitation Fred Taylor. I agree with him completely.

[TexasJag956]

Fred is one of the best RBs in history IMO. I have never in my young life seen a RB run and cut like he did with just as much power.

[Raven09s]

Wow, now that I think about it, I've realized something pretty cool.

When my kid gets older, I'll be able to tell him that I saw two of the best RB's in the NFL play at the same time. Freddy and Mojo on the on the same team was almost unfair. I'm really happy that I've actually been able to see both of those players in their primes in person.

Also met both of them during the open practices. Both were classy guys who actually talked with the fans as well as just signing autographs.

[JagFanatic24]

Mojo don't hold a candle to Fred.

When Mojo passes 10,000 yards, holler at me.

[Raven09s]

JagFanatic24, on Mar 28 2012 02:29 PM, said:

Mojo don't hold a candle to Fred.

When Mojo passes 10,000 yards, holler at me.

He's almost at 7000 yards now. Hasn't had a year under 1320 in the last three years. But he did have 342 carries last season. I hope we're able to get that back under 300 with Jennings back so he can stay healthy.

Fred was special though. If you haven't seen his kid, Kelvin, I suggest you do. He was named the highschool football player of the year in the nation just recently, and is probably the #1 RB prospect coming out of highschool.

[CatAttack78]

TexasJag956, on Mar 28 2012 01:47 PM, said:

Fred is one of the best RBs in history IMO. I have never in my young life seen a RB run and cut like he did with just as much power.

I agree 100%. His jukes were crazy...breaking ankles. The year we released him I agreed with the move at the time. When the season started though there was a different feel to the season without him. I can't wait for his name to be added to the Pride.

[JagFanatic24]

Raven09s, on Mar 28 2012 04:23 PM, said:

He's almost at 7000 yards now.

holler at me when he passes 10, 000

This post has been edited by JagFanatic24: Mar 28 2012 06:52 PM

[Raven09s]

JagFanatic24, on Mar 28 2012 06:51 PM, said:

holler at me when he passes 10, 000

Dude, why you being combative on this? I'm not downplaying that Fred was amazing. I simply said that I consider myself lucky to have been able to see both of them play on the same team at the same time and that it was a scary concept to other teams. I still remember one specific Fred Taylor run that was 80+ yards against the Panthers in Duval. He said in an interview later that he'll never forget that run because it was one of the only times that he was able to look up while he was running and see himself running on the jumbo tron. My brother had his season tix and my sister in law got sick and couldn't go. He called me at about 9:30 and I was able to get up there from Orlando in time for the flyover. One of the best games I've been to.

Basically you're just bein an idiot. But then again, you did get mad when we didn't get Tebow, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[Jagswilldestroyyou]

JagFanatic24, on Mar 27 2012 07:27 PM, said:

Just to get a break from all the Tebow talk. I put together some interesting numbers during my downtime here at work.

I know most will say coulda shoulda woulda. Taylor could have went down as the 2nd greatest runner of all time.

137 starts out of 153 games

avg 4.6 for his career

rushed for 11695 while missing 55 games.

had 2534 rushing attempts which averaged out to be 16
carries per game

Based on that he missed out on 880 carries..

Based on his avg rush per carry that is 4048 yards

Add that to 11695 and that = 15743 over 13 seasons.

---------------------------

Emmitt Smith had 4409 carries for 18355 yards with a 4.2 avg

Smith had 219 starts and played in 226 games. (missed 18 games)
73 more games than Taylor. Emmitt also carried the ball 1875 more times than Fred Taylor did.
------------------------------

These numbers may be a little skewd, but based on some quick calculations:

If Taylor could have played in 226 games he would have amassed 5580 more yards which would have given him 17275 yards rushing good enough to put him safely in 2nd place ahead of Walter Payton who has 16,726 yards rushing.

1080 yards less than the All-Time rush leader in NFL History.

If he could have back just have half of the 55 games he missed that would have given him another 2090 yards which would put him around 13785 yards for his career(based on his 76 yards per game avg). Which would put him 5th all-time just ahead of LaDaninian Tomlinson at 13684.

He needed just a mere 584 yards to be in the top 10 all-time in rushing. Even worse, he needed just 618 yards to surpass Jim Brown.

If Taylor could have just had that season back where he threw the ball down, then he would have easily rushed for 1,000 yards that season good enough for 9th all time just behind Tony Dorsett.

He would be a first ballot Hall of Famer, with no question. I know this is just tossing numbers around, but man...talk about being right there in the mix of the greatest of all time...

I am sure Fred Taylor would be a first ballot hall of famer...If only he were not drafted by the Jaguars of course.

You all know I'm right.

[VR6OOM]

God I miss that guy

[NYC4jags]

Freddy T was one of the great backs. Those in the know, know. Jim Brown once called Freddy's style " Beautiful, just beautiful."

I miss seeing that lateral hop-step right before he exploded through the hole. One of the niftiest moves a RB can have. Haven't seen anyone do it quite like Fred.

Freddy will probably make the HOF, but it will take a while. 11K yds rushing is a big deal and it will be less common as the years pass and the NFL keeps passing as well. Hopefully, as RB career number continue lingering below 10K in the coming decade, voters will take note of Freddy's achievements.

[JagFanatic24]

Raven09s, on Mar 28 2012 09:51 PM, said:

Dude, why you being combative on this?

Because you said he is at 7,000 already...

[ARGYLEGIALLOROSSI28]

NYC4jags, on Mar 29 2012 02:49 PM, said:

Freddy T was one of the great backs. Those in the know, know. Jim Brown once called Freddy's style " Beautiful, just beautiful."

I miss seeing that lateral hop-step right before he exploded through the hole. One of the niftiest moves a RB can have. Haven't seen anyone do it quite like Fred.

Freddy will probably make the HOF, but it will take a while. 11K yds rushing is a big deal and it will be less common as the years pass and the NFL keeps passing as well. Hopefully, as RB career number continue lingering below 10K in the coming decade, voters will take note of Freddy's achievements.

Thats a good point. Thats probably the ONLY positive that exists with the NFL moving to a pass first league IMO. I'm an old school guy. At least yes that should give Fred a better shot at the HOF. As of right now only LT should be voted in ahead of him as far as soon to be future candidates. AP and MJD have a shot to pass Fred but def not yet. Although I'm sure there are some who think AP is already ahead of Fred, which thats obviously nonsense. Edgerrin James MAYBE is at the same level as Fred but he was never the athlete that Fred was and never the game change Fred was. Edgerrin's YPC speaks for itself.