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NYC4jags

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In Topic: Ace Sanders Facing Four Game Suspension

23 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

Only problem is that Cecil aint "showing up".  He's been out hurt....again.

 

Of course when I talked about trading Cecil, Sanders was not suspended and both rookies were healthy. 

 

Obviously things have changed, but I still don't see them rushing to resign Shorts to a big contract.  Do you? 

 

I'm wondering if they are going to wait and see if the rookies can shine, and if Shorts' injury-prone issues continue, then let him hit the market.  If they do, everybody on here will then be screaming, "they should have TRADED him when they had the chance and could have got something for him!"

 

I don't see them signing him to a BIG contract.  But if he plays in all 16 games (or a number really close to that) I can see him getting 3.5 or 4 mil a year for 4 years.

 

I am not concerned with "trade hindsight."  I don't think his injury issues are that terrible and I don't think it's necessarily destined to be an issue moving forward.  I just think it's wise to have a vet receiver for Bortles when he's ready and someone we know can have a 100 yard game or two this year with Henne.


In Topic: Football Gameplan's 2014 NFL Team Preview - Jaguars

23 July 2014 - 02:22 PM

Well done, Emory.  Well researched as always.

 

I don't think anyone wants to see Henne play all 16 games this year, but I have a feeling we'll see him play at least half of them.


In Topic: Plan B ?

23 July 2014 - 01:43 PM

In Todman's only game as the bellcow he had 25 carries for 109 yds and 4 receptions for 44 yds.

 

I'd say he's a capable back-up - especially with D-Rob/Johnson prepared for a committee situation if need be.


In Topic: Ace Sanders Facing Four Game Suspension

23 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

Which has no bearing on my position.

 

I didn't say "GET RID OF HIM FOR WHATEVER CAN BE GOTTEN!" I said I'd trade him if someone were to offer the value that made it worthwhile.

 

That being said I think you have an inflated sense of his value. This is still a team in transition. A guy leading the team in receptions in a year that is likely to feature double digit losses again just doesn't increase his value for the long term.

 

I expect Lee and Robinson will both end up at least as good as Shorts, so if someone were to offer a first rounder or second and third rounder I think it's a deal that Caldwell would have to seriously consider.

Right, because Bradley is fine with losing 10 games this year.  No need to be competitive in the passing game while we transition right?

 

You undervalue the team's intention to be competitive while transitioning.  And Shorts is still quite young -  you assume he has diminishing value while his best seasons may lie ahead.

 

This is off topic - so I'll leave you to your opinions and let the thread return to Sanders.


In Topic: Ace Sanders Facing Four Game Suspension

23 July 2014 - 01:05 PM

Every player has a price.

 

If I could get a commensurate value for Shorts I'd trade him without hesitation.

 

He's good, but he's not of limitless value.

Given the teams issues at WR  --  I'm very, very confident that there is not a team out there willing to give what he's currently worth to the Jaguars. 

 

He'd be a #2 anywhere else. He will be here soon enough.  But for now, he's the best we have to offer until the rookies find their footing.

There's a price for that - but no team is going to pay it for Shorts.